tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post6053694253492776529..comments2024-03-29T11:45:43.197+05:30Comments on Musings of Dheeraj Sanghi: A Non-Guide to JEE Counseling 2016Dheeraj Sanghihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-60871191810216156412017-06-12T00:01:23.509+05:302017-06-12T00:01:23.509+05:30Respected Sir
I'm Abhishek Burnwal.
To be ...Respected Sir <br /><br />I'm Abhishek Burnwal. <br /><br />To be frank, I couldn't stop myself from laughing all the way from 1st to last question.! :D<br /><br />Thanks for such enlightening(entertaining? ) posts at time. <br /><br />P. S- You have an AWESOME sense of humour! <br /><br />Regards<br />Abhishek Abhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09033140260058926339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-43504623923389488262016-07-15T14:20:55.884+05:302016-07-15T14:20:55.884+05:30Thanks you Dr Sanghi for responding to my query. M...Thanks you Dr Sanghi for responding to my query. May I request you to share your views on BITS Goa campus in specific, compared to BITS Pilani campus, please. Thank you!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06594744569917898219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-41482466926017381322016-07-15T12:43:34.928+05:302016-07-15T12:43:34.928+05:30@Hemant, Comparison has to be with respect to some...@Hemant, Comparison has to be with respect to some goals, some parameters. Otherwise, it is impossible to compare apples with oranges. Most important parameter could be his interest. If he is interested in science, IISc is obviously the best, and if he is interested in Computing, then equally obvious choice is IIIT-Delhi.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-36096167520386150112016-07-15T12:41:15.250+05:302016-07-15T12:41:15.250+05:30@Sahilag, wait till the next round. Your guess wou...@Sahilag, wait till the next round. Your guess would be as good as anyone else's.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-81206540147276783062016-07-15T12:39:42.670+05:302016-07-15T12:39:42.670+05:30@Shobhit, College level maths would be different f...@Shobhit, College level maths would be different from school level maths. But if you loved maths at the school level, that is a strong indicator that you will like maths at the college level too. And if you really want to continue with your interest in Maths, the dual degree program in BITS offer you both Maths and CS.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-45879861338487830112016-07-15T12:37:10.596+05:302016-07-15T12:37:10.596+05:30@Manish Verma, They are all good institutions. So ...@Manish Verma, They are all good institutions. So you can't go wrong with any of them. If you have a geographic preference and want to be closer home, stay at PEC. If Geography is not important, you can choose between IIIT and BITS. I would have a small bias in favor of BITS since IIIT has had poor luck with its Directors. I was hoping that the current director would turn things around, but apparently he is leaving the institute soon.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-5345385383615582252016-07-15T00:04:39.763+05:302016-07-15T00:04:39.763+05:30@ Dr DHIRAG SANGHI,Pls guide whether my son should...@ Dr DHIRAG SANGHI,Pls guide whether my son should join IISC UG,IIT BHU Metallurgy or IIIT Delhi CSE.He is in dilemma...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10906755503444679161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-90814503933976071522016-07-13T14:16:00.355+05:302016-07-13T14:16:00.355+05:30respected sir
I am sahil I got 495 rank
hoping to...respected sir <br />I am sahil I got 495 rank<br />hoping to get roorkee CS seeing last year cutoff 540 I hoped to fget it and hav convinced my mind for that earlier preferring Kanpur EE<br />but I took many opionions and hence opted roorkee CS <br /><br />now things changed <br />I got Kanpur EE <br />roorkee CS round 1 462<br />round2 482 round 3 482 <br />can I still get roorkee CSsahilaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17792349799233446998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-71388308867664472542016-07-10T22:01:15.937+05:302016-07-10T22:01:15.937+05:30Sir,I have always found maths interesting and scor...Sir,I have always found maths interesting and scored more in maths in all exams. Is mathematics in dual degrees going to be different from what I studied till now? Also for a good start in my career or doing ms after graduation, would cs in bit mesra, imtech cse bangalore or bits goa mathematics + cs be better?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02657756319671596892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-28488198395910265012016-07-10T17:01:16.522+05:302016-07-10T17:01:16.522+05:30Respected Dr Sanghi, I have been following your bl...Respected Dr Sanghi, I have been following your blog for a few months now, and must admit that I am a huge fan of your clear thought process. My son is seeking admission to engineering this year. His mains rank - 3898 and BITSAT score 372. His options are IIIT Allahabad IT, Punjab Engineering College CSE, BITS Goa CS. We are from Chandigarh. <br /><br />Would greatly appreciate and be thankful, if you could evaluate the above options and guide us please . Best regards Manish Verma Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06594744569917898219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-6176507792697613892016-07-08T13:48:35.074+05:302016-07-08T13:48:35.074+05:30Dr. Sanghi, I agree that such a project is not eas...Dr. Sanghi, I agree that such a project is not easy. But the payoffs of creating such knowledge are immense.<br /><br />I think the fact that the IIT alumni base is not extremely large, and that the IITs and many alumni maintain a close association can make such an exercise easier.<br /><br />Starting your presentation to parents with such a slide, would give them a lot more reason to heed the good advice you will give them later on.Vikramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184698535624088994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-78357546579682114882016-07-07T12:53:59.546+05:302016-07-07T12:53:59.546+05:30@Vikram, First, it is extremely difficult to get t...@Vikram, First, it is extremely difficult to get the data of wealth generated by people in 15-25 years. But yes, if such a data was available, it would really demolish various myths about what makes one succeed.<br /><br />Today, it is not reasonable to expect a 17-18 year old to know all answers. As I said in the blog, you spend at least 2 years not knowing about any movie even. However, it is not a game of 0 or 1. Many students do have preferences and have reasons for those preferences. A lot of parents would simply ignore any such inputs from their wards even in cases where the perceived return on investment on bringing up the kid would be only marginally different from what they think is the best option.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-51242916156678226052016-07-07T12:39:26.958+05:302016-07-07T12:39:26.958+05:30"What does she would like to study for most o..."What does she would like to study for most of her life if no other restrictions are applied(It means NOT thinking about college brand, career, the median salary)?<br />What she would like to study for her own pleasure?"<br /><br />Is it reasonable to expect 17-18 year old kinds to be able to answer such questions ? I just dont think its possible to know. <br />Vikramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184698535624088994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-80309647833456428762016-07-07T12:37:04.916+05:302016-07-07T12:37:04.916+05:30Things would be easier to decide for parents if th...Things would be easier to decide for parents if the IITs and other universities published average wealth statistics for their alumni across various departments, 15-25 years after they graduated. <br /><br />Most likely, this kind of data will demolish the whole department - 'life setting' correlation our society has internalized, due to government jobs dominating our imagination for the bulk of our history.<br /><br />Then the field will open up for discussing the factors that actually lead to successful careers, deep interest, ability to form and maintain networks etc.Vikramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184698535624088994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-44861552613124029692016-07-06T13:17:51.427+05:302016-07-06T13:17:51.427+05:30@Nikki, how do I compare Civil in one institute wi...@Nikki, how do I compare Civil in one institute with CSE in the other. It really has to be driven by her interest.<br /><br />@Shobhit, I don't know. I am only familiar with BITS Goa, and that is a good option. IIITB has a pure CS program. So if you are interested in CS and not so much interested in Maths, that would be a good choice. But they are a 5-year integrated program. I like integrated programs in one sense, that is, you don't have to worry about GATE, MTech admission, etc., and you save one year. But on the other hand, committing to do research when you really don't know enough about the discipline is a problem. BITS Goa CS faculty is pretty decent, and I like BITS anyway for their focus on education. But this too is a 5-year program with perhaps topics that you may not enjoy. I have pretty little awareness about ISM.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-1357221340782689752016-07-06T10:51:07.356+05:302016-07-06T10:51:07.356+05:30Sir my jee advanced rank is 4865 bitsat rank is 31...Sir my jee advanced rank is 4865 bitsat rank is 316 and mains rank is 7028. I am interested in cs. Should I join iiit bangalore or bits goa maths+cs or ism maths and computing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02657756319671596892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-62834412729781256762016-07-04T01:38:15.907+05:302016-07-04T01:38:15.907+05:30@Nikki Jain After seeing the "Urgent" ta...@Nikki Jain After seeing the "Urgent" tag- <br /><br />The first step. What things interests her the most? <br /><br />Civil is highly unlikely her interest. Following the philosophy of studying the things that interest one the most, IIT is highly unlikely. <br /><br /><br />BITS Pilani and IIIT - Hyderabad are awesome colleges(researched thoroughly).<br /><br />If she has always loved her computer classes or if she was always curious to know more about computers(or she just used to like to be the first one to write the programme given by the teacher or she liked to find out yet another better way to solve the program given to her), IIIT - H is the best bet. IIIT - H is an awesome place to study if one is really into CS(Faculty-check; Facilities(Research centers and stuff)-check; Coding culture-check; Geeky(By geeky, I mean a person who are really into CS) batchmates- check; nice placements - check). <br /><br />I don't know about E & I. Therefore, I will not mention my thoughts regarding it.(Since they could be wrong so...) <br /><br />I think Sir will also advise preferring the streams rather than colleges. <br /><br />Maybe today's night(or morning) could be spend going through the past experiences and events.(They sometimes helps you to know what you always wanted to do or study).<br /><br />So it's Civil v/s E&I v/s CS. <br />What does she would like to study for most of her life if no other restrictions are applied(It means NOT thinking about college brand, career, the median salary)?<br />What she would like to study for her own pleasure? <br /><br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10247840112740897374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-19699294368481160242016-07-03T23:13:38.427+05:302016-07-03T23:13:38.427+05:30Dear dhiraj sahani ji...nice to have your advise f...Dear dhiraj sahani ji...nice to have your advise for students. My daughter got 5475 rank in IIT adv. Bits score 360. She has to opt one out of the following. 1) IIT- Indor civil 2) BITS pilani - E& I, 3) IIIT hyd- CSE ...pl advise urgentlyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02518220829852830105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-91643932136946239462016-07-03T17:04:55.176+05:302016-07-03T17:04:55.176+05:30Based on all the factors mentioned here and in oth...Based on all the factors mentioned here and in other places, I can conclude that IIITs(Jabalpur, Kanch, Gwalior) are better than NITs(KKR, DPG, Hamirpur).<br /><br />Thanks Heaps, Sir! <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10247840112740897374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-81808845441610625922016-07-03T16:55:58.705+05:302016-07-03T16:55:58.705+05:30@Siddharth Yadav, Judging the faculty from the col...@Siddharth Yadav, Judging the faculty from the college of their PhD is a good indicator, but of course can be used only when the comparison is rather clear. In one case, most people are from top places and the other case, most people are from average places. You won't be able to compare IIT Kanpur with IIT Delhi using this method, but you can compare an IIT with an NIT easily.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-80587809780410410862016-07-03T16:50:24.928+05:302016-07-03T16:50:24.928+05:30I'm really grateful for the answer.
What abou...I'm really grateful for the answer.<br /><br />What about judging the faculty from the college they have taken their P.hDs?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10247840112740897374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-36457812422981335392016-07-03T16:21:45.065+05:302016-07-03T16:21:45.065+05:30@Siddharth Yadav, As long as you keep talking of p...@Siddharth Yadav, As long as you keep talking of placement, you can't take a reasonable decision. Placement statistics is so horribly wrong, it is not funny. Most NITs don't give out their placement stats (full disclosure, not just average). I think someone should do a PhD on how perceptions are managed about colleges. There used to be this saying that you can fool some people all the time, and all people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time. Looking at placement stats of a few "popular" places including IITs, I can only say that you can indeed fool most people most of the time. I don't know how I can convince you not to think of placement. And unless you get convinced, you can't convince your parents.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-33023092543668825532016-06-29T21:39:20.480+05:302016-06-29T21:39:20.480+05:30Thanks for your answer sir!
In spite of the fact ...Thanks for your answer sir!<br /><br />In spite of the fact that I have already locked my choices, I would like to know more about CS in NITs and IIITs.<br />IIITs like Jabalpur, Gwalior,Siri City, Kach and most of the other new IIITs have awesome faculty <b> qualification </b>. Most of them have P.hD and M.Tech from IIT and a few have their degrees from IISc. On the other hand, I found the qualification of NITs faculty a bit below average. Most of them are from a popular local university. Like NIT KKR have lot of faculty from Kurukshetra University and NIT KKR. At NITs, a lot of faculty are still pursuing their P.hD.(I'm too young and inexperienced to judge the faculty from their research). <br />I found the curriculum of CS in IIITs much better than that in NITs.(Most NITs didn't mention it)<br /><br />In Spite of such differences in faculty and curriculum, NITs have better placements and a lot more competitive closing rank. Apart from 1-2 IIITs, most of them don't have recognition in major of the population(In particular parents). <br /><br />Why is this so?<br />What should a computer enthusiastic person prefer in such case? And Why? <br />How could I have convinced my parents to place IIITs(Jabalpur, Kanc, Gwalior) above other NITs( like Hamirpur, KKR, Durgapur)?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10247840112740897374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-28185138018605875292016-06-29T21:26:38.937+05:302016-06-29T21:26:38.937+05:30Sir, ISI offers a 3 years course. What other optio...Sir, ISI offers a 3 years course. What other options can I try after in CS if not MS? Very limited universities in US admits bachelors with 3 year courses. Plus, i don't want to go permanently into research.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03417959999295829330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-15585679135898937602016-06-29T21:14:15.778+05:302016-06-29T21:14:15.778+05:30@Ayushraj, both ISI and BITS are great places. So ...@Ayushraj, both ISI and BITS are great places. So you have a good problem at hand. If you look at the strengths of the places, ISI is really strong in Maths, and BITS is strong in engineering (and CS in particular). Bachelors in Maths from ISI and MS in CS from a good foreign university will be great - get the best of both worlds, except that you need to ensure that you do sufficient number of core CS courses while doing the bachelors in Maths. Also, is that Bachelor's degree a 3-year program or a 4-year program. If it is a 3-year program, you may have difficulty in getting admission in many US universities. So if the ISI program ia a 4-year program and it has sufficient exposure to Computer Science, then you will be able to go to US for an MS in CS. The BITS Pilani combination on the other hand is a safe combination (I am assuming that admission to the dual degree is guaranteed to you).<br />Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.com