tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post5583731529234497881..comments2024-03-27T14:43:28.040+05:30Comments on Musings of Dheeraj Sanghi: Joint IIT/NIT CounselingDheeraj Sanghihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-35115834988135976132015-09-05T20:41:33.213+05:302015-09-05T20:41:33.213+05:30This is worthwhile to mention that the UGC in 2007...This is worthwhile to mention that the UGC in 2007 has clearly instructed all Institutes and Universities to refund the fee after deducting a maximum of INR 1000/- as processing fee. The National Consumer Forum in May 2015 has also pronounced that college/ institutions/ universities have to refund the fees even if they had mentioned in their brochure that fee is not refundable. (Registrar sastra v/s consumer protection organisation Trichi,May 2015, Volume 2 CPJ 301 (NC )chandrajeethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05425911254873113929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-39726482942902370802015-09-05T17:24:17.031+05:302015-09-05T17:24:17.031+05:30@Praveen, you should take legal advice.@Praveen, you should take legal advice.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-67286731519197763342015-09-04T13:09:11.981+05:302015-09-04T13:09:11.981+05:30The CSAB JOSAA 2015 has again cheated all the peop...The CSAB JOSAA 2015 has again cheated all the people who were anticipating the refund of their 45000/-. Now they go back on their word for one reason or the other. I was offered NIT Nagpur CSE in the Ist round and i reported at the reporting centre and the very next day got seat at IISST Trivandrum which was my first choice so i left VNIT Nagpur. I had written an email to CSAB and they responded by stating there is no refund policy. Again when the Hon ble Minister for HRD had announced refund.. i wrote again to CSAB and they said they will refund after the admission process is over. Now when the refund policy is announced the computer says i am not allowed refund as " I had participated in 4 rounds". How could i surrender my seat when i had no way to do it ??? Can i approach court ? I live in Delhi can i go to Delhi court ??? please advise and like minded people please get in touch with me Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17729779766616028192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-13729165470588050642015-08-16T19:19:32.551+05:302015-08-16T19:19:32.551+05:30Sir , what will happen to the vacant seats at the ...Sir , what will happen to the vacant seats at the iits , I have also a friend who has left iit roorkee civil, another Indore electrical. Why is a special round for iits not being conducted?? Akash Agrawalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12538749332798984791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-91455843020739852662015-08-15T06:49:47.727+05:302015-08-15T06:49:47.727+05:30After the completion of the special round of couns...After the completion of the special round of counselling, you will find a link regarding refund in the josaa/csab site. So kindly wait. <br /><br />This is message i got from CSAB 2015 in reply to my question regarding refund of acceptance fee. <br /><br />This for information of all concerned. Thank you PRAVEEN praveendevadanam@gmail.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17729779766616028192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-20859231521989895682015-08-11T00:47:44.003+05:302015-08-11T00:47:44.003+05:30@Harsh, MHRD has asked the institutes to refund th...@Harsh, MHRD has asked the institutes to refund the money. I am not sure of the process. Whether the refund will only be to those who formally wrote to JOSSA or the Institute, or can you write even now. I would suggest that you write a letter to JOSSA as well as to the Institute where you had got admission and ask for the refund.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-45654609764946002462015-08-10T19:28:52.211+05:302015-08-10T19:28:52.211+05:30Dear Sir,my son got jee adv.rank 1882 and get cse ...Dear Sir,my son got jee adv.rank 1882 and get cse in new iits he reported on 12th july at iit delhi and his friend got 706 rank in jee adv.also reported on same day after that they both got adm.in cse IIIT Hyderabad they left iits. what options open for us to claim our refund of 45000/- paid by us sir ?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Harshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12691809532589600170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-42752140800753881942015-08-10T02:05:30.508+05:302015-08-10T02:05:30.508+05:30Hello sir.. at last JOSAA has taken a decision to ...Hello sir.. at last JOSAA has taken a decision to refund the acceptance fee of candidates like me. Surely how could something of this magnitude go unnoticed. Time for the BIG PEOPLE to pull up their socks before making such decisions. Better late than never, Hopefully the refund will take place once the counselling is over. Again no clarity.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17729779766616028192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-76103657589065906432015-07-26T17:55:37.515+05:302015-07-26T17:55:37.515+05:30sir, is there any chance for spot round in iit eve...sir, is there any chance for spot round in iit even now?? i mean, in all iits, either academic session has started or is about to start. if they find that many seats are vacant as many students didn't come for registration, what will they do?? will seats remain vacant or will they go for spot round??Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16414691667820460394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-73223327025885389502015-07-21T01:45:42.250+05:302015-07-21T01:45:42.250+05:30@Praveen, I think everyone who is not joining the ...@Praveen, I think everyone who is not joining the seat allocated to them should write to JOSAA, organizing IIT, and the place you have received admission from. You should clearly say that you want to withdraw from the seat allotted to you and you want all the money that you have deposited to be refunded to you in accordance with the MHRD notification on refunds from engineering colleges. If they disagree, then sue the college where you were supposed to join.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-84556623761224783532015-07-19T10:18:45.508+05:302015-07-19T10:18:45.508+05:30Dear sir..
I reported for seat acceptance on 11th ...Dear sir..<br />I reported for seat acceptance on 11th July and got a better seat outside JoSAA on 12th July and i did join the institute. what legal options open for me to claim my refund of 45000/- paid by me sir ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17729779766616028192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-42056900196635613672015-07-15T19:47:50.310+05:302015-07-15T19:47:50.310+05:30Josaa is made for money makingJosaa is made for money makingAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03079748233706916761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-84810422269135143432015-07-05T14:45:10.278+05:302015-07-05T14:45:10.278+05:30Sir, As Spot round phenomenon applies to NIT/IIIT/...Sir, As Spot round phenomenon applies to NIT/IIIT/GFTI only...and as per my understanding this will be handled by CSAB (NIT Patna) in 2015...I assume Mr Raghav needs to keep visiting http://csab.nic.in/WebInfo/home.aspx for updates on this...The spot round may be clubbed with the SFTI (Private Institutes) round that CSAB is planning to hold...Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04904578784334368933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-54464436512416839592015-07-05T14:39:26.271+05:302015-07-05T14:39:26.271+05:30@Raghav, they have not scheduled any and as of now...@Raghav, they have not scheduled any and as of now denying. But I believe that given the large number of seats that we are likely to see vacant, they may change their mind and do a spot round. We will just have to wait and watch.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-194990109071549672015-07-05T14:36:58.347+05:302015-07-05T14:36:58.347+05:30Sir will there be spot round this year nd if yes ...Sir will there be spot round this year nd if yes wht will be its eligibility criteria..???Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03814657635203698967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-39568259906316869582015-07-05T14:33:35.501+05:302015-07-05T14:33:35.501+05:30@Kishore, I agree with you fully. To bar someone f...@Kishore, I agree with you fully. To bar someone from JEE Advanced just because they participated in NIT counseling is too harsh a measure. And any new policy of this kind should be discussed with stake holders a priori. What is worse is that such a policy may not even be understood by all those who are participating in this Joint counseling, and it will come to them as a rude shock next year.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-82955887782635772532015-07-05T13:47:15.956+05:302015-07-05T13:47:15.956+05:30Sir, Another unfair clause that a parent raised on...Sir, Another unfair clause that a parent raised on a facebook group..The JoSAA business rules state that "Candidates who accept the allocated seat by reporting at the admitting institute or a reporting center, irrespective of whether they attend classes or not, become ineligible for JEE (Advanced) in subsequent years." which means if a student reports to a IIT reporting center as he/she is allocated a IIT seat in the first/second/third round but he/she doesn't want it but is only reporting to continue for further rounds of counselling so that he/she gets a seat in a NIT he/she loses the chance to appear for JEEA 2016. This is unfair I believe..This wouldn't have happened in a separate IIT & NIT counselling scenario as in 2014 & before..as he/she would not have gone to any IIT as he/she doesn't want the seat allocated... Your take on this...Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04904578784334368933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-79853106745652145302015-07-05T13:06:33.720+05:302015-07-05T13:06:33.720+05:30@Kishore, I am not an insider. I have nothing to d...@Kishore, I am not an insider. I have nothing to do with JEE or JOSSA. I am on leave from IIT Kanpur. And someone is pointing this out after the counseling has started, and hence one can argue that it is too late (though we know that it is possible to do things late, but legally it can be a strong defense). But anyway, if Rajeev Kumar or anyone else wants to file a PIL, it would be great.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-88588287286279243172015-07-05T13:03:45.474+05:302015-07-05T13:03:45.474+05:30Sir, if JoSAA authorities are doing this inspite o...Sir, if JoSAA authorities are doing this inspite of being pointed out/knowing this loophole then someone has malafide interest in this..& also in your blog you have clearly stated "Looks like someone is trying to ensure that this is the last year of joint counseling.", which indicates that you as an insider have a whiff of some malafide interest somewhere...Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04904578784334368933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-31807558423993168162015-07-05T12:58:13.758+05:302015-07-05T12:58:13.758+05:30@Kishore, I think it will be difficult to prove ma...@Kishore, I think it will be difficult to prove malafide in this.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-51330031885258926132015-07-05T12:57:33.951+05:302015-07-05T12:57:33.951+05:30@Nitin, I agree that there can be a portal which a...@Nitin, I agree that there can be a portal which any university can join.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-41021189179491065382015-07-05T12:55:14.169+05:302015-07-05T12:55:14.169+05:30@Anonymous, I think if everyone shares this inform...@Anonymous, I think if everyone shares this information on social media, writes to Directors of these 87 institutes, and to JOSSA, MHRD, etc., there is still a possibility of getting them to create an option of withdrawal before the 3rd round results are announced.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-91766482843305642782015-07-05T12:52:39.766+05:302015-07-05T12:52:39.766+05:30@Siddharth, BITS was just an example. I had not ev...@Siddharth, BITS was just an example. I had not even looked at their schedule. I used BITS because it is the best known university outside the government system. But the primary point was that the students are being forced to accept a seat within JOSSA domain by creating a very high cost of rejecting that seat and even then a large number of seats are going to remain vacant, thereby serving no purpose.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-85063187900156059942015-07-05T12:50:29.499+05:302015-07-05T12:50:29.499+05:30@Indian, I agree that asking 45,000 rupees now whe...@Indian, I agree that asking 45,000 rupees now when bank loans are not available is on the high side. But I would guess that the principle is really the same that I have pointed out in my blog, to ensure that the student gets locked in to this system and is forced in some sense to not consider alternate colleges.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-11822220963682695022015-07-05T10:45:17.337+05:302015-07-05T10:45:17.337+05:30Sir, Has Prof Rajiv Kumar Professor IIT Kharagpur ...Sir, Has Prof Rajiv Kumar Professor IIT Kharagpur on whose PIL this was ordered by the courts not seen this major loop hole...if he has then has he not brought this to the notice of the authorities in charge of JoSAA...<br /><br />If he has brought this to the notice of JoSAA authorities & they have not listened to him then the matter with this loop hole will go to the courts again & in case as you say large number of seats in both IITs and/or NITs remain vacant due to this the courts may pass severe strictures against the JoSAA authorities...In case the prof has not seen this loop hole as of now..he may find it out sooner than later & in that case also the JoSAA authorities may have to face the music from the courts..Kishorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04904578784334368933noreply@blogger.com