tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post3735581744112186810..comments2024-03-29T11:45:43.197+05:30Comments on Musings of Dheeraj Sanghi: A Note on Admission ProcessDheeraj Sanghihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-91224950838011554562012-10-20T18:07:14.370+05:302012-10-20T18:07:14.370+05:30sir i would like to give an idea for new process o...sir i would like to give an idea for new process on admission which would not go against any students(without taking into consideration of caste based reservation)..abolish board exams. conduct aptitude(in pcm) test for 10 days throughout india in differnt languges. let the students be tested for 6 hours each day. so we can get 60 hours of testing. by doing this a student who has not done exam well on one day can have many chances. for the rural and poor students government should provide the same kind of materials which coaching should provide. this way we can prevent rote learning and improve the standards. this exam result shud be followed by all colleges in india..<br /><br />sir let us have same syllabus through india. even cellular roaming charges within india have been abolished but why differnt boards?. iam a class 12 tamilnadu state board student. here rote learning is called as learning. my board is very ignorant. see the physics book of my state and u would lose interest in physics. if u go 2 a book shop, u can get guides for exams but not reference books. ncert books are 1000 times best.. i want you to consider my opinion..sharan swaruphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01772429649267536241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-55385455776142159832012-07-15T10:16:57.459+05:302012-07-15T10:16:57.459+05:30@Sandipan, Thanks a lot. I am a fan of your writin...@Sandipan, Thanks a lot. I am a fan of your writing. The link to your article was sent to me by several of my friends, and I have put it up on my JEE 2013 webpage also.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-64644912767759574442012-07-14T10:47:04.183+05:302012-07-14T10:47:04.183+05:30Dear Prof Sanghi,
I am an IIT Kharagpur graduate w...Dear Prof Sanghi,<br />I am an IIT Kharagpur graduate who has spent the last 20 years in journalism (used to be Managing Editor of Outlook, and Editor of The Financial Express etc). I'd like to share with you the column I wrote in Mint last Friday. I've been reading your blog, and have been helped immensely in formulating my views on this whole entrance exam controversy. I have acknowledged this in my column.<br />Regards,<br />Sandipan DEb<br /><br />http://www.livemint.com/articles/2012/07/12200646/The-percentile-way-to-ruin-the.htmlSandipanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10054235700749601622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-15359139822112951132012-07-13T21:26:18.154+05:302012-07-13T21:26:18.154+05:30@Harisankar, I have already said that "prefor...@Harisankar, I have already said that "preforming well" is something that the university has to decide. It could be "performing well in India" if that was the reasons for the existence of the university. Not an issue at all. But I think I may not have been able to explain my points well. By giving admission to rich kid, you are not gaining from that kid, but you are gaining by 99 other kids, who get to have a better education as a result of that extra money. And please don't correlate everything with an IIT. I used IIT only as an example at the end. Most of the article is independent of IIT. For IITs, the funding is coming from the government and in good amount, and the corresponding gifts from alumni form a very tiny portion of the budget. So the example of rich kid is not applicable to them.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-82370437442614919892012-07-13T11:35:52.682+05:302012-07-13T11:35:52.682+05:30Since IITs are mainly govt. funded and we are stil...Since IITs are mainly govt. funded and we are still a developing/under-developed nation having among the highest inequality, the admission process should be based on "who will result in making the country better". This will not always correlate with "who will perform well in the future". Looking from a country perspective rather than a narrower "institute" perspective, giving admission to a "rich kid" do not make any difference in the nation's economy as net gain/loss is zero, while the compromise on excellence is non-zero. Same applies to the argument on special consideration for wards of influential people like politicians. Even in a minor proportion, having money directly resulting in an admission is not good for the nation's morals as citizens should be motivated towards bringing up a better child rather than making more money. If one wants to extract more money out of the rich towards education, better way is by improving the tax system.<br /><br />I agree that having a diversity in the student population will be good and admission processes should be changed to reflect that. But, the diversity considered should be in terms of criteria like gender and varied talents alone, resulting in better citizens.Harisankar Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13800832608222466723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-84864082747231645952012-07-13T09:07:07.211+05:302012-07-13T09:07:07.211+05:30@Siddharth Jain, I have had to reject your comment...@Siddharth Jain, I have had to reject your comment. I would only like comments which are relevant to the post. But thanks for your kind words.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-21975605857080046702012-07-11T08:13:00.213+05:302012-07-11T08:13:00.213+05:30@Unknown IITK Alumni, Your comment was not relevan...@Unknown IITK Alumni, Your comment was not relevant for the discussion here, and hence not permitted. If you wish to levy serious corruption charges, this is not the right forum. While I do not know the specific case you mention in your comment, and do not wish to speak on behalf of other IITs (well, I don't even represent IITK on this blog), I have a feeling you have not understood the admission process.Dheeraj Sanghihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06367519409840642182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-53532762062760772392012-07-11T01:54:44.900+05:302012-07-11T01:54:44.900+05:30A succinct, excellent write up.A succinct, excellent write up.Vikramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184698535624088994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-4416732222395263182012-07-10T18:02:34.262+05:302012-07-10T18:02:34.262+05:30Being a father of two who has undergone the proces...Being a father of two who has undergone the process of admission in institution after +2, it can be safely said that the present system followed is a process of elimination aiming at retaining of aristocracy or uniqueness of certain institutions. There are bad students in almost all institutes despite the selection process. Is there a database of failures of reputed institutes?There is record of students who have done well but what about the students who could not be admitted like the example cited. IISER have done well by selecting students crossing certain cut-off in the Board Examination. You cannot judge a student simply on the basis of written examination. There are many facets which should be explored and made the basis of application and selection process for admission in all institutes.How many entrance examination is given by an average student and what is there score in that? Is there a study on the performance of students in different entrance examination? Is ther a pattern? Ideally, institutes should spell out the vision and mission and define the quality, they are looking for in the students. It will be quite helpful if they can quantify the definition. The same should be adequately ingrained in the application and admission process.This is a tall order but it has to be done before embarking on a common admission/entrance test.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14881748735690890324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4273139713770751485.post-77768409991863710002012-07-10T16:46:48.258+05:302012-07-10T16:46:48.258+05:30Very much in line with your post on autonomy. Thin...Very much in line with your post on autonomy. Thinking about "what students do we want" and designing an admission process accordingly is the base for several far-reaching consequences. Great post and thank you for bringing up these concerns.Ashwani Sharmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04865945248567477583noreply@blogger.com